Week 4: Discussion Leader

The eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg represent a major symbol throughout the story? Consider the symbol and their its on the characters.

  • The eyes on the billboard in the land of the ashes are a huge symbol throughout the entire story as they represent the eyes of god watching over all of the characters as they commit their sins. This is especially present when Daisy runs over Myrtle right before the poster. When the reader later sees Wilson in his office pacing back and forth all night after his wife was just brutally murdered he begins to stare at the eyes. Then he looks back to his friend and says, ” I told her she might fool me but she couldn’t fool God…God knows what you’ve been doing, everything you’ve been doing.” This is a very important scene in these last few chapters because it expresses the impact and torment that the eyes have on the characters in the story. The characters sometimes feel hopeless because they feel that they can’t control everything or they don’t know the truth but, these eyes that taunt them constantly have only seen the truth and nothing but the truth.

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Why did Nick say to Gatsby, “They’re a rotten crowd…You’re worth the whole damn bunch.”? And what was its impact?

  • This is a very important quote in the eighth chapter because it is the last that Nick will ever speak to Gatsby and it is the only compliment that he has ever given him. This compliment is the most kind and resolving one he could have ever given him. This is because all Gatsby ever tired to do was show Daisy and Tom that he was of the same stature as the were, but they never really accepted him. Nick tells him here that he is far better that any of them ever where with or without their wealth. Now after this quote Gatsby could die a man at peace knowing that he at least had one true friend, also knowing now that he was always too good fro Daisy anyhow. Nick is extremely thankful that he said this to Gatsby because he felt that Gatsby deserved his happy ending even if it didn’t include Daisy.

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    What is the significance of the man with owl-eyed glasses and how he is the only other person to come to Gatsby’s funeral?

 

  • The owl-eyed glasses man is extremely significant in the fact that he represents the poster with the eyes of Doctor T.J. Eckleburg there at the funeral watching over Gatsby and taking in count that Daisy never showed. It was extremely significant that there was only Nick, Gatsby’s father, and the owl-eyed glasses man at the funeral because it expressed where Daisy’s alliance and heart stood. It was extremely apparent in these last few chapters how selfish and childish Daisy actually is, she truly was a “careless person”. God was watching over that day at the funeral and was taking names, many people only acted as friends with Gatsby face to face, but when the time came that he needed the so called “friends” no one responded. It is apparent at the end of the story that the only person who really cared fro him besides his family was Nick Carraway.

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Week 4: Connector

During the last two chapters of the Great Gatsby, it seemed more difficult to find connections between the book and history. I decided to research Gatsby’s characteristics and his relation to other prosperous people within this time period of the 1920s. I found a man named Al Capone.

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Al Capone was involved in gambling and bootlegging within a gang in Chicago. Jay Gatsby was accused in being involved in scandalous crimes such as those listed for Al Capone. For instance, Gatsby states, “Meyer Wolfsheim? … He’s the guy who fixed the World Series back in 1919.” When Nick question why Wolfsheim wasn’t caught, Gatsby just implies that the police “can’t get him” because he is a “smart man” (112-118). Throughout the book, Gatsby is secretive and it is obvious that he knows situations that must not be told.

Through his young years, Al Capone was not very wealthy. As the prohibition movement began in the 1920s, Al Capone gained prosperity through his bootlegging businesses. Gatsby was also poor growing up and gained wealth his own way. Many American were amazed by Al Capone’s image as many are of Gatsby’s. These two hold similar traits that connect as the book continues. At the final chapter of life, Al Capone and Gatsby both face a rather tragic end.

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I also discovered another small connection between Gatsby and religion. People have assumed that Fitzgerald has intended Gatsby to be illustrated as Christ. For instance, there are rumors questioning his gain in wealth and prosperity as there has been for Christ. Also, his “mass” or gathering of people to celebrate the idea of life would be his parties. They are very symbolic in his character and what he preaches. As for his death, Gatsby is in his bathing suit as Christ had been stripped during his passion. Finally, Gatsby embraces his death just like Christ. This was just a small connection I found interesting and hoped you would as well!

                                                                                                                 Thank you, Maxine Kelley

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Week 3: Discussion Leader

Is Daisy’s love for Tom different than her love for Gatsby? If so, in what ways?

  • Our group eventually came to the conclusion that Daisy’s love for Tom is more forced. She married him due to fact that Gatsby was away for war and that he was poor. Her love for Gatsby was already socially unacceptable and Daisy felt obliged to marry someone within her social class. Daisy fears the love she has for Gatsby and how it consumes her. She is afraid to leave her comfort zone after all these years and once again be connected with her past. Gatsby is Daisy’s true love, but Tom is the man she should be with to please others.

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Throughout chapters 5-7, the reader witnesses Nick and Gatsby’s relationship grow stronger. What does this reveal about Gatsby? How does this friendship impact Nick?

  • When Nick and Gatsby first met, it was obvious that Gatsby had the intentions of only meeting Daisy as previously discussed. As the book progresses, Gatsby begins to depend on Nick and turn to him for advice. They are developing a real friendship compared to how it was before. Our group believed that Gatsby grew close to Nick because he is often lonely. Nick is the best option as a friend and Gatsby discusses his issues with him without even realizing it. Gatsby even begins to tell honest aspects of his life to Nick. As for Nick, he is experiencing that life is not as pure as it seems. He witnesses the deception and lies taking place with people around him and he is shocked with how Gatsby truly is. Although Nick is surrounded by these people, he forces himself to accept these circumstances and has yet to judge anyone by their actions.

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In the upcoming chapters, will Daisy leave Tom for Gatsby? What impact will the car crash have on Daisy’s relationship with Tom? Gatsby?

  • Our groups believes that the car crash will eventually come into the situation and impact Daisy’s relationship with both men. In our opinion, Tom will look past the incident because all he cares about is Daisy. As for Gatsby, he stated that he will cover for Daisy but we think that Daisy will confess sooner or later. The guilt will eventually consume her and she loves Gatsby too much to see him take the blame for her. Our group also believes that Daisy will leave Tom because she said in these chapter that she loves Gatsby in front of Tom. On the other hand, Daisy does care about her image and is respective of what is expected of her. As the book progresses further, we will have more information to infer Daisy’s actions and her true feelings towards either man. She seems confused as of now. Stay updated to see what happens next!

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-Maxine Kelley

 

 

 

Week 2: Connector

“Rosy” Rosenthal Murder

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When Gatsby and Nick meet Wolfshiem for lunch, he says ,”I can’t forget so long as I live the night they shot Rosy Rosenthal there..”. Upon further investigation, I discovered that this was a real historical event in 1912.

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Historical Context:

During the era of prohibition, New York’s Tammany Hall was a center of corruption run by Irish politicians. At Tammany Hall bootlegging, gambling and prostitution thrived. This was enabled by police officers who tool bribes in exchange for them overlooking the illegalities. A key leader in Tammany Hall at the time was Arnold Rothstein whom Fitzgerald renames Meyer Wolfsheim in the novel.

Events of the Murder:

Mr.Herman Rosenthal opened a casino on March 20, 1912. About a month after the opening Lieutenant Becker raided the casino to investigate the illegal activity as ordered by his boss Rhineland Waldo. This angers Rosenthal who had an illegal agreement with Becker to overlook the illegal activities, so Rosenthal makes public Lieutenant Becker’s corruption. As a result, Rosenthal was set to testify at Becker’s trial. However, at 2 am on July 16, 1912 Rosenthal was gunned down outside of a hotel by Lieutenant Becker. As a result, Becker was executed and this affair became a widely know police coruption case.

Significance Historically:

As a result of this case, the entire Tammany Hall corruption scandal was exposed. It also brought out the truth about the corruption in the New York Police Department.4

Significance to the Novel:

Fitzgerald is referencing this historical event in order to show what kind of people Gatsby is associated with. He is meeting for lunch with a notorious mobster who is committing crimes during the prohibition era. Gatsby has not been completely truthful with Nick. Wolfsheim even accidentally implicates himself when he confuses Nick with someone whim might be interested in doing illegal business with him. This puts the reader into the historical perspective and allows them to further understand Wolfsheim and Gatsby’s involvement.

New York Times Article: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/100-years-after-a-murder-questions-about-a-police-officers-guilt/?_r=0

Tamany Hall Info :http://www.history.com/topics/tammany-hall

 

 

 

 

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